REMOVE A RADIATOR FOR PAINTING A WALL- Plumbing Tips

REMOVE A RADIATOR FOR PAINTING A WALL- Plumbing Tips


– [Voiceover] Plumberparts.co.uk Honest reviews and advice – Hold tight, welcome to today’s
plumberparts.co.uk video, my name is James, and today, we’re going to use our
little mock-up here. We filled this radiator
up with a bit of water and we’re going to show you
how to remove this radiator without having to drain the system down so you can basically take it off the wall and quickly paint behind it. So, it’s a really handy trick
to know how to get these off without having to drain
the whole system out. So, very simple video. Please subscribe if you like it and I’ll see you in a minute, hold tight. Oh, yeah, and remember one thing as well, if you don’t have enough flex on the radiator pipes going up, say they’re coming out
of a concrete floor, this might not be the easiest
job to do in the world. So, you know, make sure
that the pipes can move a little bit, if you
can, before you start. So, first things first, what
you’re going to need to do is make a note if you got a
pressurized heating system. That is where you have the little dial on front of the boiler or up in your loft in
your airing cupboard. Make a mental note of
where that dial is pointing because once you finish this job and you put the old
radiator back on the wall, you’re going to need to, probably, re-pressurize the system a little bit, just top it up a little bit and also you might need to add
a small amount of inhibitor. We’ve also done a video
on how you can do that so please check our YouTube
channel, type in inhibitor, and you’ll find a way that
you can do that there. So, first, the tools you’re
going to need for this job, we got a spanner here, a normal spanner, we got ourselves a pair
of adjustable grips just in case we need to
grip the radiator valve, and basically, a couple
of towels, maybe a sponge if you get water everywhere. And, because you’re not going to have the specially made
plumbing device for this, because we can actually have specially made plumbing
trays for this sort of drain, we’re just going to use ourselves a little paint base like this today. So, you made a note if
there’s a pressurized system or if you’ve got a tank in the loft, you don’t need to worry. So, the next thing we’re going to do is shut down the lockshield
into the radiator. The radiator we’ve got here today has got two lockshields on it but
you might have what is called a thermostatic radiator valve,
or TRV, at the other end. So, you want to shut that down to zero. So, let’s do that now. You shut this down here now. Remember, righty-tighty, OK? It’s really important to remember that. Righty- tighty. So, what that means is
that you’ve turned it right to shut the valve. Let’s do this end here. Right, there we go. So, they’re both shut off now. Now, what we need to do is get ourselves this little tool here. This is a radiator bleed key. And what we’re going to do is we’re going to pop our tray under here and a couple of our little
towels to stop what we got now And we’re going to open this up and make sure that no water comes out. Sometimes, you’ll get a
little bit of water come out as the pressure dissipates
out the radiator but after about five
minutes, it should stop. If it doesn’t stop, I’m afraid
you’re not going to be able to carry on with this method
of removing the radiator to paint behind the wall. So, as you can see, we got
no water coming out of here even though you might get
a dribble on your radiator. All we’ve done is basically we’ve shut these two valves and now we for a fact
that they’re holding. So, we know it’s safe for us
to go into the next stage. All we need to do next is
use our grips and adjustables to grip the valve itself
and slack it off this knob on the radiator side of the valve. Choose either end, it’s up to you, but I usually use the TRV end. Because we haven’t got the TRV here today, I’m just going to use the
end nearest the camera. We’re going to hold our
body just like this, and then we’re going to get our nut and just loosen off this valve as so. And, you should see,
pretty much straight away we get a little bit of water coming out. So, now we got a radiator draining down basically, it’s just a matter of patience. I always have a nice large bucket with me, so, intermittently, I can just nip this up when it starts getting a bit full and then I can pool the
water into that bucket knowing that I’m not going
to have any major problems. Even if I do have a little bit of a drip, I got my towels here, they’re
going to catch any water. So, what we’re going to do now is wait while the water level
slowly comes down and down into this radiator. Maybe even make yourself a cup of tea and just sit there with
it whilst doing this. Check your emails, even. Basically, just do that, wait until this fully starts to stop and then we’ll move onto the next stage. (water pours into bucket) Sometimes, if you’ve got
enough flex in your pipework, you can actually pull the valve off and you’ll get the water to come out a lot quicker than it would’ve done. Obviously, because this
is a mocked-up part, it will move a lot easily, which makes this job a lot easier. Right, so as you can see, we’ve almost completely
stopped running now, so pretty much ready to
move onto the next bit. Right, all radiator brackets
are slightly different so it’s a good idea
you have a good look at how to actually come off. So, if we look at these ones here, we can see this just
lifts off this part here and they’ve got a holding clip here that basically retains the
radiator back to the wall but doesn’t actually take any weight. You’ll often find that
your radiator bracket will be one long piece of angled metal with two little lugs
in for the bottom clip and the top clip. But for this video, this
radiator is just fine to show you how to do the next bit. So, we’ve got hardly any water coming out of that end right now. What we want to do before we actually fully remove it off the wall is, you want to slacken off this other end, just quickly, so do it
exactly the same way we slackened off our first pipe. Just like so, and drain that back. And then, before we go
any further as well, we want to make sure
that we put our bleed key back in or re-tighten it up just to make sure for the next stage that we don’t have any spillages. So, I’m just gonna pop
that in here now as well. There we go. So that’s now back in. So, what I do is just
pop this valve off here. We got a little bit of water at this end. We got this end, and all we need to do is just quickly lift this up slightly, OK? And we should see we get some more water out the bottom of the radiator. Basically, just sit here, I mean, you can prop a little
bit of wood under here, just make sure after
about five or ten minutes that you get most of that off and then what we want to do is lift the other side
out, pop that valve off, and then we should be
able to take the radiator out of the way and you’ll
be able to paint your wall. There we go, you see that? Tipped it that way,
still got plenty of water in the bottom of the rad there. Ah, there we go. Just flip this up this way now because we’ve got our bleed key. So, now, we got our
radiator safely off the wall we got no water coming
out or anything like that. We can paint this wall,
and then basically, in the reverse order, pop the radiator back onto your clips, put your pipes back on, then you can open up your valves, open up your air bleed, fully refill the radiator
and then lock each side. If you’ve got a pressurized system, go back and make sure
it’s nicely tucked tight. If, while you’re at it, you
want to add some inhibitor, then that’s great. You can never really
have too much inhibitor in a heating system. I hope you find today’s
video helpful and informative and it’s given you a better idea about how you can remove these radiators and how easy it is to do it yourself without having to bring a plumber up if you’ve got the decorators around doing the wall or whatever. If you need any more help
or any more information, pop over to our website,
plumberparts.co.uk. As I said, it’s really
important you subscribe. We upload weekly. We upload fun videos as well
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our ask the plumber videos. Until next time everyone, I hope you have a lovely week and I’ll see you on our next video. Remember, everyone, to hold tight! – [Voiceover] Plumberparts.co.uk Honest reviews and advice.

43 thoughts on “REMOVE A RADIATOR FOR PAINTING A WALL- Plumbing Tips

  1. I want to know your thoughts about primeatic single pipe systems as I have done a job on 1 this year and was struggling with filling it back up.

  2. I tried this with my electric radiator and after some improvisation I'm still waiting for the electricity to drip out of the cable into the bucket. AMIDOINITRITE?

  3. Also pertinent to note for a TRV simply turning it to 0 doesn't mean it's off. Most have a frost setting so always use a decorators Cap otherwise it will keep dripping when the temp drops. Good video 👍🏻

  4. TRVs can be a pain in the arse if they don't shut off! I picked up some valve clamps the other day to stop the drips.

    Don't forget if the rad has been balanced correctly you need to make a note of the number of turns on the lock shield so when you turn it back in the rad will work at the correct temp.

  5. I've seen a method where you close both ends, let the pressure off through the bleed valve and close, then just SLIGHTLY slacken off both ends.
    Then lift the rad off the bracket and tilt forward, giving you enough room to work behind.
    All depends on how much give is in the pipes, and your way can be used to allow flushing a cold spot rad too!

  6. Footprints are far handier and better than grips for supporting the valve! They are the way forward!

  7. No need to bother waiting around for it to drain all the way out, just pop your fingers over both ends and flip it upside down, it can be off in 30 seconds that way. PP knows that's the plumbers trick haha!

  8. hi I would like to add and removed radiators in my house. need I inform about this building regulation authority if I will do everythink myself and i am not certifi plumber?

  9. If they're small rads like this one I aways keep the bleed valve closed and flip the rad upside down with my thumbs over the holes. If you have play like you said.

  10. Dammit! I wish I'd seen this months ago when decorating! I thought I had to empty the whole system when removing a radiator so just left it.
    Ah well, noted for next time! Thanks PP!

  11. I need to remove a radiator for a plastering job, the radiator will be off for a few weeks as all the plaster needs to come off. can I just leave the radiator off like that or do I need to do anything additional with it being left off. I have a pressurised combi boiler. Thanks

  12. Hello, To make this job a LOT easier, and cleaner, go to ABD Tools
    website and look at Radclamps, plus other tools to help, no draining of rad when removing it.

  13. Love your videos James, you've saved me a packet. Feeling well proud that this went off without a hitch today (5'4 lone female, rad c.250cm long). Desludged the radiator, barely spilled a drop, and it's now sitting neatly across two guitar stands. I can also vouch for using a flexible Tupperware container for drainage, as you can wedge it in/up under the valves. Thanks again (and of course I'm a subscriber!). 🙂

  14. Do I have to worry about the fact that there is no water inside the radiator prior to putting it back on the wall? I have Thatchen Radiators, is it possible to remove them from the wall?

  15. 0:40 so your instructions for people whose radiator pipes can't move are are "make sure they can move" err.. right. thanks for that

  16. Hi, I enjoy your videos… You intimate this issue I have… I'm trying to replace tall column rads on my system. Closed trv and closed the lock shield. Undone the bleed screw and there's a lot of pressure/water. Why is this? Is the trv not holding? I guess I need to drain the system? Thanks!!

  17. Iv just watched you video, and managed to do the job, I’m a diy flid! 😭 but you helped massively! WELL DONE MATE👍🏻

  18. I followed this and now I have no pressure on my boiler. I'm not blaming you! I thought your video was excellent – I have obviously not done something wrong, please can you help me put it right?!

  19. Thanks James. Loving all the videos. I noticed that you didn't put any joint compound on the joints when reconnecting, whereas a couple of other Remove-rad-for-decorating videos do advise to clean off old and the old compound and refresh?

  20. Links to the tools I use everyday here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/shop/plumberparts

    Plus, follow my Vlog “TimesWithJames”: http://www.youtube.com/c/timeswithjames

  21. Good stuff. Gave me the confidence to remove mine in new house. Annoyingly though the connection was on the bottom of the rads rather than the side which did make it more difficult.

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